35. Lincoln Logs, Interspecies Animal Friends (w/ Space Cadet)

With the help of Matt Hock and Dave Walsh (the band Space Cadet), we add Lincoln Logs and interspecies animal friends to the List of Every Damn Thing.
Phil & Jake are joined by Dave Walsh & Matt Hock of Space Cadet to talk about their debut album Lion On A Leash (available on Wiretap Records), and of course to continue the ongoing construction of the List of Every Damn Thing by ranking Lincoln Logs and interspecies animal friendships.

Find Space Cadet on Instagram (@space_cadet_band). And RUN, don't walk, to the weblink at the end of this sentence to get the limited-release vinyl of Lion On A Leash.

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  • Lion On A Leash was produced by Pete Steinkopf (Bouncing Souls). Along with Dave & Matt, it also features the talents of Mike Sneeringer, Matt Olsson, Chris Gonzalez, Scott Engel, and Brian Baker from Minor Threat / Bad Religion.
  • Jake was trying to say “honorific” when referring to Matt’s “Million Dollar” title.
  • Space Cadet currently has three great music videos (all directed by Joanna Bovay): “Forever For A While”, “Bad Luck” and “Start Running Away”.
  • We talk some about Dave & Matt’s other band, The Explosion. When Jake says he was finally going to be able to see them live, he means “see them live again” (the band had a long hiatus). They played a New York City show in early 2020 with Dave Hause, and were going to do some West Coast dates, but then COVID. 
  • Hause, as many of our listeners will know, was in the incredible band The Loved Ones with Dave Walsh.
  • Here’s the video for The Explosion’s “Here I Am” featuring the legendary Smith Puget.
  • Martin Shkreli’s Wu-Tang album can be played at listening parties but can't be commercially exploited until 2103.
  • Jake thought it was new, but the National Geographic show Unlikely Animal Friends has been running for almost a decade.
  • “Animal Odd Couples” is an episode of PBS’s Nature. You can meet all their featured interspecies buddies here
  • We didn't get into it but dog / dog is a good friend combo. Youtube feeds those to Phil because of his history. Check it out.
  • Howard the Duck was fully discussed last episode but it's closer to a friendship than having a pet or being a Beastmaster is.
  • E.T.: The Extra Terrestrial came up. Have you seen it as an adult? Phil realizes now it's about the parents' divorce and how it's impacted the kid. As a kid he didn't even notice the mom character existed!
  • The Fox and the Hound are actually both canines. Kurt Russell plays voice of the hound. The fox is played by Mickey Rooney, which is weird because he was thirty years older than Russell. It’s probably reasonable to think of it as being about class and race, since they can talk and aren't really like real animals in that sense. Having not seen it lately (but read the plot summary), it seems like it could be a defense of segregation, or maybe a rallying cry for working-class solidarity. As of this writing, the jury is out.
  • The Beastmaster came up, but he's actually a bad example because he's a master of the animals and not a friend. If he was called The Beastfriend he'd belong in that conversation.
  • Phil thinks pets are not exactly friends. He thinks it'd be like him calling his son his friend.
  • Jake tried to figure out what bird makes the knocking sound he was talking about, but failed. It might be crows (they do make a clicking sound).
  • Air Bud does, in fact, wear a little sneaker on each of his four feet.
  • Hey, Julia Roberts (if you’re reading this): We absolutely loved you in Notting Hill. It’s a real tour de force or whatever.
  • Ducks are funny, Phil likes the sound they make when they're not quacking but just idling. We just learned today that male ducks don't quack.

Below are the Top Ten and Bottom Top items on List of Every Damn Thing as of this episode (for the complete up-to-date list, go here):


1. Dolly Parton - person
2. interspecies animal friends - idea
3. Clement Street in San Francisco - location
4. Prince - person
5. It’s-It - food
6. Cher - person
7. Donald Duck - fictional character
8. Hank Williams - person
9. air - substance
10. Watchmen - comic book


113. Double Stuf Oreos - food
114. Lincoln Logs - toy
115. Jenny McCarthy - person
116. Jon Voight - person
117. Hank Williams, Jr - person
118. McRib - food
119. war - idea
120. cigarettes - drug
121. QAnon - idea
122. transphobia - idea

Theme song by Jade Puget. Audio mastering by Luke Janela. Graphic design by Jason Mann.

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